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Datasets about potential logos - December 2024 uploads
Hi all, we have released a new dataset of potential logos uploaded in December 2024, together with another one of those which have already been deleted as of 2025-01-07. We are sharing them with you for your consideration.
This is part of our current work with the logo detection tool. We hope it will be useful for your moderation activities.
If you encounter issues with the datasets or have comments/requests, please reach out to me or to Sannita (WMF).
Thanks for your attention! –-MFossati (WMF) (talk) 10:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sannita (WMF) and MFossati (WMF): it would be spectacularly helpful if you could put all of the files that this tool identifies into a hidden category, so that admins can look at them in gallery view instead of having to open them one by one from the links in the CSV. Or maybe we could have a bot do that if it can parse the CSV? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy I just made some tables: take a look at the subpages of User:Mdaniels5757/Logo data 2024-12. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757: Thanks. Column headers would be nice, especially for columns with just Boolean values. - Jmabel ! talk 04:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Try refreshing, I just fixed those after I posted :) —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 04:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757: refreshing not fixing for me at User:Mdaniels5757/Logo data 2024-12/03 and they appear not to be in the page source (sortable, but no headers given). - Jmabel ! talk 04:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Ah, I see the problem now. Fixed. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Now we're good. - Jmabel ! talk 04:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Ah, I see the problem now. Fixed. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757: refreshing not fixing for me at User:Mdaniels5757/Logo data 2024-12/03 and they appear not to be in the page source (sortable, but no headers given). - Jmabel ! talk 04:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Try refreshing, I just fixed those after I posted :) —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 04:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've already zapped a bunch of spam and a few copyvios using those tables. Just what I needed. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 09:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757: Thanks. Column headers would be nice, especially for columns with just Boolean values. - Jmabel ! talk 04:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy I just made some tables: take a look at the subpages of User:Mdaniels5757/Logo data 2024-12. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- How is that "confidence score" used? What (if anything) happens for files in what range of confidence score?- Jmabel ! talk 04:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not used, it's there for your information. MFossati (WMF) (talk) 11:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sannita (WMF) and MFossati (WMF): Can you add a rule to ignore any file that begins with "BSicon"? For example, File:BSicon SFSKRZqu+l.svg. Files with this naming convention will never be logos (they're segments of transportation diagrams), and there are a lot of them. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 09:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Done, see [1]. BSIcons will be ignored starting from the next dataset. MFossati (WMF) (talk) 12:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Closure requested on a month old DR
- Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Nicole Luisoni
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Nicole Luisoni (52524729432).jpg
These have been open for a month and the subject clearly would like to see some resolution. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Andy Dingley: I've closed both DRs as deleted per consensus. Abzeronow (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good day. Do consider speedying the files and not wait for the default 7 days for someone else to process. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 14:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Add a domain to external uploads whitelist
Please, add domains https://fckarpaty.org.ua/ and https://www.fcpodillya.com.ua/ to MediaWiki:Copyupload-allowed-domains. We received CC permission from these sites, you can see CC licensing in website footers. We plan to mass upload images from these sites using bot, like we did from dynamomania. MBH 12:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- I support this request. Well very well (talk) 12:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done by A.Savin. MBH 15:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Protection setting
Hello, Request any admin to remove the protection setting: ‘Allow only autopatrollers’ from my userpage. --Gpkp (talk) 16:48, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Done, though its hard to imagine why anyone but you should edit your userpage. - Jmabel ! talk 19:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Star Avenue sock accounts
- Star Avenue 2018 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
- Zestsees (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
- EX Centre from Star Avenue 2018 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
Star Avenue 2018 and Zestsees are two accounts uploading the same kind of content that blocked LTA User:EX Centre from Star Avenue 2018 was last year, including a lot of repetitive and unusably dark photos of Hong Kong's Central Plaza, as seen across a body of water at night.
All three users credit some of their photos to "ms bing", eg. Zestsees's File:Central_path_0221.jpg, Star Avenue 2018's File:Ex centre AI 02.jpg and EX Centre from Star Avenue 2018's File:Blue EX centre 0004.jpg. Belbury (talk) 12:32, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Belbury:
Already done, lock evasion. You could have reported to COM:RFCU or m:srg. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good to know of global blocks, but this didn't need the "last resort for difficult cases" of a checkuser! Belbury (talk) 13:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bsadowski1: FYI. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good to know of global blocks, but this didn't need the "last resort for difficult cases" of a checkuser! Belbury (talk) 13:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


On April and August 2022, Ahonc without any discussion twice deleted all contents of this category, removed several dozens of files including files like first right photo, and, after second deletion, protected category from re-creation by non admins. I think this is wrong decision based on his political views. Neo-Nazism exists in any European country (and not only European), we have many parallel categories by country like Category:Neo-Nazism in Russia for Germany, Kazakhstan, Poland, Lithuania, Netherlands and Chech Republic, and category for Ukraine should exist too, for photos like second right photo. I propose to restore this category and explain to the administrator that his actions are unacceptable. MBH 15:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- See also "Death to Kikes!" graffity. MBH 15:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MBH: He invoked COM:CSD#G3. I don't understand how maintenance of such a category can be vandalism. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:34, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like anyone has pinged Ahonc to let them know about this discussion, so I have done so. I'm leaning towards undoing the page protection and the deletion per the existance of parallel categories but since Ahonc hasn't been pinged yet, I'm happy to wait a day or two for their response before doing so. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have pinged Ahonc in thread title... MBH 17:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Very inappropriate actions by Ahonc, to say the least. Looks almost like a "man on a mission with sysop flag"? In any event, of course this category should exist, as long as the files are supposed to be OK for Commons. --A.Savin 08:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like anyone has pinged Ahonc to let them know about this discussion, so I have done so. I'm leaning towards undoing the page protection and the deletion per the existance of parallel categories but since Ahonc hasn't been pinged yet, I'm happy to wait a day or two for their response before doing so. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Calling Azov batallion as neo-nazism is Russian propaganda. This is not nazist formation. And nazist symbolic is forbidden in Ukraine. That category was used for propagandic purposes. I just removed protection from category. And about existance of category: we already have caterory Category:Fascism in Ukraine with swastika-like images there, why do you think that we should have other similar category?--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 10:48, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- You performed the deletions in 2022 with G3 reason that is the action complained here (not the recent unprotection of the page). While you could debate on the Azov symbol, a Swastika and a black sun are indisputable Nazi symbols the belong in such a category. GPSLeo (talk) 11:20, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- About G3: Azov Regiment is one of brigades of Ukrainian Army. And Russian propaganda calls them nazist to avoid military help for them from international donors. These category contained at that time many images with Ukrainian military formations and people which is unrelative to nazism (for example this and this). And I consider it as harassment and attacking for Ukrainian military people. That's why I use G3 criterion there. And about Swastika: there is Category:Nazi Swastikas in Ukraine for such symbols, is not it?--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 11:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- First, I think it is necessary to make the distinction between the scope of the categories—Fascism, Nazism and Neo-Nazism. Second, the argument, And about existance of category: we already have caterory Category:Fascism in Ukraine with swastika-like images there, why do you think that we should have other similar category?, doesn't make any sense. It directly contrasts the hierarchic and universality principles of categories. We have instances of both the categories for a particular country such as Category:Fascism in Country and Category:Neo-Nazism in Country, see Category:Fascism by country and Category:Neo-Nazism by country. --Ratekreel (talk) 11:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- How do you know that Swastika is nazist, but not fascist symbol here?--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 12:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is the other way around: All Nazis are fascists but there are many different forms of fascism they do not refer to the NSDAP. The Swastika is always a reference to the NSDAP (if not used religious symbol from India). GPSLeo (talk) 13:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not learn this topic deeply. Nevertheless, now category is empty. So, nothing to discuss. When there will be adequate content for it, it may be created.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 13:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Emptying a category by yourself and then using the emptiness of the category as an argument during an ongoing discussion is not the behavior I expect from an admin. GPSLeo (talk) 14:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've explained above: there was not appropriate content there, that's why I removed it from category. Where is nazism here or here?--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 14:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. There was request from Ykvach about this category: it was created for distribution of fakes about Ukrainian military units.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo: Well, if you are expert in this topic, please, tell me, what difference between fascism, nazism and nationalism? That organization are nationalistic, but not nazistic or fascistic. Nazism and fascism are forbidden in Ukraine, and they may not be nazistic.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nazism and fascism are legally forbidden in Russia too, but Category:Neo-Nazism in Russia and Category:Fascism in Russia exists. It's incorrect argument: "forbidden by law" doesn't mean non-existence. MBH 17:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- For the longer version please read the Wikipedia articles. But in short:
- Nationalism: Putting one country in favor of other countries.
- Fascism: Violent ideology based unequal treatment of human based on origin (racism) or views on the society.
- Nazism/National-Socialism: Form of fascism developed by Hitler and the German NSDAP putting a "race of Aryan" people in favor of all other people.
- GPSLeo (talk) 18:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, most of files which I removed from category were related to nationalistic organisations, not nazistic. But they were in category about nazism, which was used with Russian-propaganda purposes (to show Ukrainian army as Nazi). That's why I remove files from that category. Ironically, that this topic was opened by users from Russia. In general, I do not oppose of existing such category, but it should have adequate content (which is really nazistic, but not nationalistic).--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 18:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- According to en:Andriy Biletsky#Political views it is definitely not vandalism to categorize photos of him into that category. It might be not totally accurate but is definitely debatable and therefore something to discuss and not to just remove with admin rights. GPSLeo (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well, if so, we should categorize whole his category, but not each image.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 21:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Of course putting only one photo of a person who has a own category is nonsense. GPSLeo (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well, if so, we should categorize whole his category, but not each image.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 21:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- According to en:Andriy Biletsky#Political views it is definitely not vandalism to categorize photos of him into that category. It might be not totally accurate but is definitely debatable and therefore something to discuss and not to just remove with admin rights. GPSLeo (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, most of files which I removed from category were related to nationalistic organisations, not nazistic. But they were in category about nazism, which was used with Russian-propaganda purposes (to show Ukrainian army as Nazi). That's why I remove files from that category. Ironically, that this topic was opened by users from Russia. In general, I do not oppose of existing such category, but it should have adequate content (which is really nazistic, but not nationalistic).--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 18:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Emptying a category by yourself and then using the emptiness of the category as an argument during an ongoing discussion is not the behavior I expect from an admin. GPSLeo (talk) 14:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not learn this topic deeply. Nevertheless, now category is empty. So, nothing to discuss. When there will be adequate content for it, it may be created.--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 13:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is the other way around: All Nazis are fascists but there are many different forms of fascism they do not refer to the NSDAP. The Swastika is always a reference to the NSDAP (if not used religious symbol from India). GPSLeo (talk) 13:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- How do you know that Swastika is nazist, but not fascist symbol here?--Anatolii 🇺🇦 (talk) 12:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- You performed the deletions in 2022 with G3 reason that is the action complained here (not the recent unprotection of the page). While you could debate on the Azov symbol, a Swastika and a black sun are indisputable Nazi symbols the belong in such a category. GPSLeo (talk) 11:20, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
I agree firmly with those who say that this is not the sort of thing anyone, administrator or otherwise, should have done unilaterally, and that for at least some of these images, this was simply wrong. - Jmabel ! talk 19:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
That said, I wish to differ somewhat with User:GPSLeo about the definition of nationalism, and less so about that of fascism, while agreeing with him about Nazism.
- "Nationalism" is not necessarily about an existing country. For example, Kurdish, Basque, or Catalan nationalists, or Zionists before 1948, or Palestinian nationalists now, or Black nationalists in the U.S., were/are advocating for the recognition of a group, usually ethnically defined, as being a nation. Usually, but not always, this correlates to either chauvinistic advocacy for an existing country (the case covered by GPSLeo) or the desire to create a new one. But the term is broader than that: For example:
- White Nationalists in the U.S. generally are more focused on excluding some current U.S. citizens from the definition of who is an American than from any particular attitude about U.S. international relations.
- There are plenty of self-described Catalan or Basque nationalists who wish some degree of autonomy within Spain, rather than the creation of a new country.
- Very few Black nationalists in the U.S. wish any sort of geographic separation from other Americans; in fact, few of them are separatist at all. Their goals are usually more cultural/economic than narrowly political.
- Hungarian nationalists in Romania may be almost anywhere on the spectrum from simply being concerned to defend the use of Hungarian language and culture in Romania to wishing Hungarian annexation of large hunks of present-day Romania by Hungary, comparable to what happened during World War II.
- Etc.
As for fascism, I wouldn't say that racism was a particularly defining component. Unless we are speaking narrowly of the Italian Fascists led by Mussolini, fascism is a bit of a cluster: militarism, strongman rule rather than democracy, strong government regulation of commerce largely (but not necessarily entirely) in the interest of the capitalist class, sexism and imposition of "traditional morality" in the sexual realm and, yes, racism. Most scholars I've read don't require that all of these factors be present to call a party or regime "fascist", just the bulk of them (and some would weigh in half a dozen other criteria). - Jmabel ! talk 19:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Support restoration of category. Ahonc's unilateral actions went against policy. Abzeronow (talk) 21:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the longer explanation my summary might have been a bit to short. GPSLeo (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- For the sake of it, I ran this query and got a list of edits made by Ahonc in 2022 with edit summaries containing Category:Neo-Nazism in Ukraine.
This might be useful in closing the discussion. --Ratekreel (talk) 13:21, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- I looked at some of these photos and most of them all related to nationalism in Ukraine, but not to neo-Nazism. Mitte27 (talk) 13:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Summary
I restored the category and will re-populate it, but without images of just right-wing protests/rallies. MBH 23:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Either File:PU-Kyiv.jpg belongs in this category, or it should not be the image for the Wikidata item. I don't really have an opinion on which, but this is inconsistent. - Jmabel ! talk 04:09, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Administrator who understands Turkish
Is there an administrator out there who understands Turkish? Perhaps that person could take a look at File talk:North Marmara Anatolian Motorway.png. All of the files uploaded by Kaya3477 are roadway maps that either are crops of other maps found online or the same as the map found online. All the uploads are claimed as "own work", most likely because of a misunderstanding of COM:Own work, but some do appear to have been modified slightly by adding a text description to the map. Anyway, I couldn't find any indication that the originals (see here) were released under the same license as the uploader and what the uploader posted on the aforementioned talk page seems to indicate there is some kind of restriction in place on commercial re-use. I, however, don't understand Turkish and Google Translate might be missing something important. I tagged the files as copyvios, but I'll remove the tags if that was incorrect and more discussion is needed or the files are OK as licensed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Per Commons:List of administrators by language, User:Kadı is the admin you want. --Rosenzweig τ 00:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Rosenzweig. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly, The user says that "Web sitemizde yayınlanan çalışmalar, kaynak gösterilmek suretiyle kullanılabilir. Ancak bu bilgiler, ticari amaçlarla kullanılamaz.", the government's sources can be used with attribution but can not be used for commercial purposes. Because of this, the file is not suitable for Commons as they restricted the commercial use rights. Therefore, I deleted the image. Best wishes! CC: @Rosenzweig Kadı Message 09:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Kadı. Would you mind explaining this to the uploader so that they don't try to reupload the same files or other similar map images? -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly, The user says that "Web sitemizde yayınlanan çalışmalar, kaynak gösterilmek suretiyle kullanılabilir. Ancak bu bilgiler, ticari amaçlarla kullanılamaz.", the government's sources can be used with attribution but can not be used for commercial purposes. Because of this, the file is not suitable for Commons as they restricted the commercial use rights. Therefore, I deleted the image. Best wishes! CC: @Rosenzweig Kadı Message 09:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Rosenzweig. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Hmd5i (second report)
despite my contributions to stop misinformation on a file, this user, User:Hmd5i, has once again harassed/personally attacked me by calling me a vandal on User talk:Aafi.
here's what they said: "Funny, the user Freedoxm is still doing vandalism, but instead of being punished, he is being honored and allowed to vandalize more, any way the coats of arms of Syria have changed , but wiki still living in November 2023 :)". if you do not see the message feel free to look at that page's history. if youve also noticed you may check my contributions, all i have done here at wikimedia commons is contribute, not vandalism.
this isn't the first time they have attacked me, as they've called me stupid and dumb before. i would greatly appreciate it if this nonsense is removed and the user is blocked temporarily for falsely accusing me and personally attacking me. thank you. 🗽Freedoxm🗽 (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ping to @Aafi. Kadı Message 18:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Not done Apparently nothing that needs an admin intervention at the moment. You should try to have a mutual conversation with them. I have already sent them an advice for remaining cool-headed. Regards, Aafi (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Bartosz Kapustka
Please restore Category:Bartosz Kapustka, it contains files again. Mitte27 (talk) 15:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Done —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
deletion of upload comments
Is there a way to delete the comments listed in the first upload of a file. As an example, the comment in this file File:Peineta and two combs in a shop, Valencia.jpg reads 'Uploaded while editing "Peineta" on nl.wikipedia.org'. Can this be removed. I tried revision deletion in another file, but it did not have the desired effect. My question relates to a privacy issue. Thanks, Ellywa (talk) 21:18, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've hidden the edit summary in that file. Abzeronow (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ellywa: I've also done a very slight crop as an overwrite to help me get rid of that comment. Feel free to revert the very slight crop. Abzeronow (talk) 21:34, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- No problem, so that is the trick. I can help somebody else now, thanks so much for your quick answer. Ellywa (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow. For your information: I discovered the comment is still visible in the public log, in this case no problem at all, but it might be a problem for privacy issues. I noted it can be deleted from the public log as well, thanks again for your help. Ellywa (talk) 10:49, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- No problem, so that is the trick. I can help somebody else now, thanks so much for your quick answer. Ellywa (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- phab:T288327 since 2021. --Krd 11:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sigh... while WMF is doing so much to incorporate temporary user names, this remains unsolved. Ellywa (talk) 11:27, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see temporary user names as a necessary thing, IP addresses are not best for privacy and WMF doesn't want to require editors to register (although that would be better for us). Not requiring an overwrite to remove unwanted data would definitely be a quality of life improvement though. Abzeronow (talk) 23:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sigh... while WMF is doing so much to incorporate temporary user names, this remains unsolved. Ellywa (talk) 11:27, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Suppression
Please suppress old summaries and revisions of wikitext in [2]. Taylor 49 (talk) 23:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've hidden all mentions of the previous file name in the history there. Abzeronow (talk) 00:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)